From eleanor@XXXX Fri Aug 23 12:23:37 1996 From: Eleanor Whitfield (Genetics) <eleanor@XXXX> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 12:23:35 BST To: baker@XXXX Subject: Help FlyBase - wgCX3 Cc: eleanor@XXXX Content-Length: 1499 Hi Nicholas, I am a curator for FlyBase working at the Cambridge, England, site with Prof M. Ashburner. While curating a paper I came across wgCX3, of course now known as wgl-16. I went to all the references we have listed for wgCX3 and it soon became apparent that this chromosome is a little confusing. I was hoping you could help me to clear this up. \*x FBrf0046100 == Baker, 1987, EMBO J. 6(6): 1765--1774 reports a breakpoint between +10.8 and +15.0 of the wg molecular map, this is a complex rearrangement and not a deficiency. \*x FBrf0047884 == Baker, 1988, Development 102: 489--497 reports a breakpoint downstream of the transcription unit that brings other sequences close to the 3' terminus of wg. Deletion of other genes other than wg. \*x FBrf0066940 == van den Heuvel et al., 1993, EMBO J. 12: 5293--5302 reports a 17kb insertion of unknown DNA between 2-4kb from the transcriptional endpoint of wg. Could you please clarify the situation? Many thanks Eleanor Whitfield FlyBase From baker@XXXX Fri Aug 23 15:32:57 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:23:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: baker@XXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset='us-ascii' To: Eleanor Whitfield (Genetics) <eleanor@XXXX> From: baker@XXXX (Dr. Nicholas Baker) Subject: Re: Help FlyBase - wgCX3 Content-Length: 2091 Dear Eleanor, Sorry that wgCX3 is so confusing. The allele was X-ray induced, and based on orcein squashes appeared to involve a deficiency ~28A-C. Homozygous embryos died before secreting cuticle, consistent with deletion of many genes. In trans to null alleles of wg, wgCX3 gave pupal lethality, indicating that it is not a null allele of wg, which cannot have been deleted in wgCX3. Southern blotting showed that most of the wg gene was unaltered but there was a breakpoint in the +14.6 - +16.3 interval. To test whether this was one end of a deficiency, blots were performed with wgCX3/wg1 DNA, since wg1 deletes some DNA right of +16.3, but this DNA was still present in the wgCX3 chromosome. From this I concluded that the 3' breakpoint in wgCX3 was not one end of a deficiency. The relationship of the wgCX3 lesion to the cytology of the chromosome was not clear; they might be related parts of a complex rearrangement, or might be independent events in the same chromosomal region. I understand the van den Heuvel et al to have shown a 17kb insertion into wgCX3. I assume this is the event in the +14.6-+16.3 interval that I identified in Southern blots. As I recall, their paper gives no further insight as to the cytological appearance of wgCX3, or to the apparent mutation of other genes required to account for the arrest of wgCX3 homozygotes prior to embryonic cuticle secretion. Marcel van den Heuvel (now with Phil Ingham??) might have further unpublished data, but unless he does so you can draw no inference of any deletion associated with the insertion, or anywhere else in the cloned wg region, and the reason for the altered cytology is unclear and very possibly unrelated to wg. hope this helps, regards Nick Baker From eleanor@XXXX Fri Aug 23 16:06:10 1996 From: Eleanor Whitfield (Genetics) <eleanor@XXXX> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 16:05:50 BST To: baker@XXXX Subject: Re: Help FlyBase - wgCX3 Cc: eleanor@XXXX Content-Length: 952 Hi Nick, Thank you very much for your prompt reply, it is always appreciated. I am now clear about the complete picture of the chromosome rearrangements given in your papers, thank you. If you have no objections I would like to curate your correspondance as a personal communication to FlyBase. Many thanks for your help, Eleanor Whitfield From baker@XXXX Fri Aug 23 16:55:40 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:46:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: baker@XXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset='us-ascii' To: Eleanor Whitfield (Genetics) <eleanor@XXXX> From: baker@XXXX (Dr. Nicholas Baker) Subject: Re: Help FlyBase - wgCX3 Content-Length: 2024 Dear Eleanor, Having checked in my thesis I see that I said wgCX3 was a deficiency in 28A. There is a photo there and it looks like it might go into 28B but I don't want to be quoted on this based on memory from a decade ago. Please can you leave it as 'small deficiency in 28A region' - unless anyone wants to do a careful cytological analysis. By all means include my message in fly base. Everything in it is in my thesis 'wingless: a gene required for segmentation in Drosophila', Univ. of Cambridge 1986, and this may be more appropriate than pers. comm. However, the details could also be summarised as: 'the wgCX3 mutation is associated with an insertion of unknown DNA just 3' to the transcription unit (Baker 1987; van den Heuvel 1993). In addition, the cytological appearance of a deletion in 28A and the early demise of wgCX3 homozygous embryos prior to cuticle secretion imply deletion or alteration of other genes, but the molecular basis has not been determined (Baker 1988).' regards Nick Baker