From eleanor@XXXX Tue Feb 27 10:48:09 1996 From: Eleanor Whitfield (Genetics) <eleanor@XXXX> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 10:48:02 GMT To: berg@XXXX Subject: Help FlyBase - 0482 insertion Cc: eleanor@XXXX Content-Length: 975 Dear Dr. Berg, I am a curator of FlyBase working at the Cambridge, England, site with Prof. M. Ashburner. I am curating your paper: \*x FBrf0078675 == Horowitz and Berg, 1995, Genetics 139(1): 327--335 in which you mention a pipsqueak P{PZ} insertion allele 0482. In our genes file the allele 0482 is a mutation of lola. symbol: lola name: longitudinals lacking location: 47A11--47A12 by in situ to lola[00642] allele: lola[00482] insertion: P{PZ}lola[00482] mutagen: P-element insertion discoverer: A. Spradling reference: FBrf0067338 == BDGP Project Members, 1994-, Berkeley Drosophila Genome Project symbol: psq name: pipsqueak location: 47B1--47B4 47A9--47A10 You mention that 0482 chromosome has two insertions, the second insertion into a neighbouring lethal complementation group. Is this complementation group lola? If the gene is not lola then are lola and psq the same gene and the insertion hits another gene? Regards, Eleanor Whitfield FlyBase From berg@XXXX Tue Feb 27 18:35:05 1996 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 11:16:09 PST From: 'Celeste Berg' <berg@XXXX> Reply-To: 'Celeste Berg' <berg@XXXX> To: eleanor@XXXX Subject: Re: Help FlyBase - 0482 insertion Content-Length: 3076 Dear Eleanor: At the time we submitted that paper (July 1994), we did not know that the second insertion was in lola. We now have confirmation from Ed Giniger (who is right down the street at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center) that the second insertion IS in lola. As a matter of fact, I created a deletion by excising both P elements in 0482, thus deleting the DNA starting in the big intron of psk (47A10-12) and heading distally to the site of the second insertion, which Ed Giniger tells me maps between the two promoters for lola (47A13-16). (These are my and Ed's mappings... probably not as accurate as Allan's!) That deletion is called Delta(Greek symbol)18. Ed and our analyses of this deletion show that psk and lola are transcribed in opposite directions, psk toward the centromere. Although both genes have BTB domains, they are definitely not the same gene. We have a paper in review (still waiting to hear - it seems like ages now...) that describes this deletion but not in as much detail as I've provided for you. It also states that lola is a hotspot for insertion (there were 10 alleles from the Spradling lab screen). I did complementation tests with all of our psk alleles and all of these lola alleles and only 0482 failed to complement psk and lola. Its clear there were two hits. Celeste